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Published on February 29, 2012 By Savyg In Personal Computing

Who's excited?  I'm excited.

I love the idea of the Metro UI to remove distractions and make computers more efficient (suspended apps will be taken off the CPU scheduler and most likely the video resources will only be in virtual mem).  It was a little awkward on the Dev Preview but that isn't what the CP will look like anyway.

Storage spaces is probably my favorite feature they've talked about so far.  I'm not sure I want to ditch my Win7 install yet though, but it probably won't take long using 8CP before I do.

I do wish ReFS was in the client builds, but it doesn't sound like it will be.  (At least in the final OS...don't know about the CP.)

I definately like the plugin free browser idea too.  Most of the time you browse they're unnecessary anyway.

Otherwise it's mostly just more efficient, and I can't argue with that!


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on Feb 29, 2012

What the Lifehacker video can't show you is what it's like when you're trying to do work on it.

For instance, load up say Office or Photoshop and a Metro app. Switching between them is a huge pain in the rear. 

You launch everything from Metro and then have to jump back to the desktop experience.  

I hope no one is missing the irony that the Metro examples are...widgets.  It would be like if every DesktopX widget required you to go to a full screen DesktopX environment rather than trying to exist alongside your existing desktop.

When you use Windows 8, you can see they got a lot of things right and then they blow it by trying to force desktop users into using their PC like it was a tablet.

on Feb 29, 2012

From the video I saw, i'm having mixed reactions with Win8.  Seeing some the desktop improvements I wasn't expecting, but Metro still sucks A$$.  Do you really need to take up a whole screen to see the weather?  For smartphones that's fine, but for PCs, you could just opt for a DesktopX widget instead.  You don't even need 100 pixels of space to see what the current temp is outside.  But I do like how you can uninstall an app without launching the control panel.  But...it's still the clunky, flawed Windows uninstaller we're dealing with here.  I have IOBit Uninstaller on my machine, and i've never looked back to Add/Remove Programs.

 I still hate the minimalist interface, even on the desktop and I hope that there will be a WindowBlinds 8 on the horizon sometime soon.  The interface (especially metro) looks SO 1995.  Even Windows 95's interface could look like Win8's, completely devoid of any eye-candy whatsoever.  I've noticed that even Aero's min/max/close buttons are looking more minimalist than in Vista and 7.  Is Microsoft trying to appeal to the 65+ crowd?  I'm in my twenties, and I demand a fancy, modern, colorful interface that's all over the place.  Even Vista's version of Aero was do-able, but still boring.  But Win8 has THE WORST UI since Windows 95.

I did download the ISO, but haven't launched it yet, so my rant may of been premature.  I'm still gonna run it for myself.  I just have to, despite how sucky it looks.

on Feb 29, 2012

And the deal where you drag open apps into the desktop from the left screen edge....forget that when using dual monitors and Multiplicity or Mouse Without Borders....what a pain!!

on Feb 29, 2012

Can Metro be nerfed in such a way that all you have on it is the Desktop tile, yet still use and retain all windows functionality from the Desktop? (that includes bringing back things like, taskbar, notification area and start menu.)

If the above can indeed be done, then i guess it wouldn't be so bad. There a few features in there that look quite handy. The new file copy dialogue and the ability to mount from explorer will be highlights i'm sure.

I "could" live without the start menu, you could put alot of the start menu's links into a dock, but without a taskbar, how does one manage your open folders and programs? Tiles? (SD version) Or are all open programs and folders managed from Metro?

I too have been downright disgusted in win8, but under the skin there do seem to be some improvements that i would use. The UI though, will keep from enjoying them.

Metro just looks messy.

on Feb 29, 2012
on Feb 29, 2012

Holy crap....

What a (in)complete mess.

on Feb 29, 2012

The idea of switching from say Word to a weather widget that is running 2560x1440 is baffling.

And let's keep in mind, most of the UI involves moving from the bottom left (or top left) to the top right (or vice versa).  

They should have let the WIndows phone team design this. They knew good UI.

on Feb 29, 2012

I've been way too happy with W7 to even consider upgrading. Especially after watching the video.

Looks like a boon for tablets and phones but that's about it. I'll hold out for version 9

on Feb 29, 2012

Okay, i'm running the Win8 Consumer Preview now.  Even in desktop mode, they're dumbing it down.  Why is Flip3D gone?  Now it's just a vertical version of Alt+Tab.  And when you do Windows Key+Tab, you can't go back to what you're currently running.  You have to go to something else first before going back to your original window.  Why on earth do we need two Alt+Tabs (the classic horizontal and the useless new vertical one)?  I liked Flip3D.  It showed that Microsoft still cared about eye-candy back during the Vista-era.  But now it's about running an interface that my grandma would like.

Another thing I really liked that MS (almost) took away is custom icon sizes in explorer.  Now we're limited to just a few different icon sizes, and nothing in between 128px and 256px.  Most of my folders on my host machine are between 128 and 256px because 128's too small and 256 is too big in my opinion.

However, I do like the new ribbon, so not all hope is lost.  And the "up one level" button is back.  Vista and Seven made it difficult to navigate on upper levels in the folder hierarchy.  So at least one feature from XP is finally returning.

Windows 8 could REALLY use some UI customization right about now...

 

 

on Feb 29, 2012

VistArtXPosed
Windows 8 could REALLY use some UI customization right about now...

W8 could use consistency, and some uniformity along with a way to get from metro to regular non-tiled programs.

This is the most counterintuitive OS ever produced.

It'll make Apple rich(er).

on Feb 29, 2012

The old task manager still exists.  And so does msconfig.  Just use the Run Dialog hotkey (Windows Key+R) and type their respective names, "taskmgr.exe" and "msconfig.exe".  So it appears you can still do stuff the old fashioned way.  I just did "services.msc" and it brought up the list of services.  So without the start menu, you'd have to be more of a power user to get around to the same stuff you could do right from the Start Menu from older versions of Windows.  A step backwards indeed.

So why are there two versions of Task Manager as well?

on Feb 29, 2012

Consistency is what kills them. 

That is what makes this such a train wreck.

Let me live in the desktop OR live in Metro. Don't have me jumping around two totally different experiences and usage paradigms.

on Feb 29, 2012

So, why doesn't Microsoft take the smarter route and make two different main versions of 8?  A PC and Moblie Version, instead of integrating everything into one product?  The desktop part being for PCs, Metro for mobile devices, and to share some (but not all) features across each platform.  Why would mobile devices such as smartphones need a Desktop Mode anyway?  You'd have to constantly scroll, and you wouldn't get anything done.  While Metro for PCs is nothing but a clunky, single-tasked app that won't allow PC users to switch between applications easily.  At least they could of allowed Metro apps to be run WITHIN desktop mode in it's own window, but NO...it has to take up the full screen.  PC versions could come in two flavors, Home and Pro, and mobile devices would come with just one, Mobile. 

And what's with the "hybridization" of everything these days?  Instead of products being great at one thing like in the good old days, they have to be half-arsed at many things.  That's explains Windows 8 in a nutshell.  So far, i'd rate Windows 8 a 3 out of 10.  It's disappointing, but it could of been worse.  Kudos for the ribbon UI in desktop mode.  That's about the only great thing for Windows 8.

I really hope that Windows 9 will fix these issues and become a great product once again.  But I doubt it.  By 2014, 2015 (when Windows 9 should be out), PCs won't be the dominating computing platform, and either Windows will shift into the tablet/smartphone market (and rid of the Desktop entirely), or die off.

on Feb 29, 2012

I doubt they'll die off, be reduced in numbers yes but that's when laptops and desktops switch over to what they do best. No i anything is going to beat either one for sheer power. Size does matter.

on Feb 29, 2012

VistArtXPosed
So, why doesn't Microsoft take the smarter route and make two different main versions of 8?  A PC and Moblie Version, instead of integrating everything into one product?  The desktop part being for PCs, Metro for mobile devices, and to share some (but not all) features across each platform.  Why would mobile devices such as smartphones need a Desktop Mode anyway?

I don't believe the mobile version will have a desktop mode at all.

Also as I understand it WinRT (which stays in the Metro interface) is meant to replace Win32 entirely.  In time, thats a lot of legacy baggage out of the way.  Win32 started in Windows NT/95, for reference.

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