hehe

Yeah but I bet your Stihl can't make a good jug of home made 'shine'. Tasted that stuff once. Never again! Sick to my stomach for a good while.

Good blackberry shine is the stuff. Goes down like water, sits you down quick.....

Its the standing up that fraggles your brain.

My nephew used to make a sour mash that made Jack Daniels look like lolly water in comparison... like it was 72% proof and would lay you down real quick after one or two too many... and for him five or six was too many.  In the end he was issued an ultimatum from his wife: "Me or the drink."  Wisely, he chose her and these days just has a couple of beers on weekends.

Anyhow, this isn't discussing Windows 8... or has it all been said already?

It was break time. Now you may return to 8 bashing.

I don't necessarily want to bash it, despite the Metro mistake MS is pushing on us.  There are some great improvements under the hood and I'd like to be able to take advantage of those... it's whether or not MS listens to consumers and allows the disabling of Metro for desktop PC's while returning the start button/menu to the classic desktop mode, though Winstep Xtreme would restore complete functionality should MS not listen.

Realistic question here.
Does anyone think (or is it even possible) that any of the actual good stuff thats wrapped up in Win8's shitty exterior will or could make it into a Win7 SP2? I really like the ribbon in explorer, plus alot of the new disk functions i saw, along with the new Taskmanager, and i'm sure plenty of other goodies i'm forgetting. (or didn't see since i bailed on 8 very quick)

I won't ever be using metro. I didn't like it, period. I'm not opposed to change, but said change should be for the better, and since my windows experience and desktop is as personal to me as my car or my clothing, any change should impress me or improve upon what i have.

Some functions of Win8 will do that i'm sure, but those under the hood functions could well work fine on Win7. i hope they can, and do!

If Win8 after release performs very poorly, as many of us expect (and i hope) perhaps that might encourage MS to back port some of the cool 8 features to 7, knowing that is where the customer base remains.

If Ms fails to listen, i can see SD and Winstep making a tidy profit.

Name of the game...profit. One persons fugly is another's gold mine.

Such is the life of a computer user, don't upgrade and you wonder what you might be missing, upgrade and you wonder why you didn't stick with the previous version of the software. 

There's really nothing seriously broken in Win7.  I suspect Win8 will increase Win7 sales.

Just because something isn't broken doesn't mean it can do everything you want it to.  On the other hand...

...I certainly don't disagree with you there.

Lets not overlook one very important factor and that would be Stardock's approach on making it's software compatible with Windows 8.  Stardock's decisions will influence a lot of PC users.    

There are a lot of good things in win 8. Unfortunately Metro is useless. I've been using this CP for 3 weeks now and am just getting comfortable on the desktop. Everything I have in win 7 is working here now and I must admit some things work better. Like my ATI Radeon 5450 video card which when using the win 8 drivers from ATI works way better. If I could just lose the Metro thing and get my proper start menu back, I'd be happy.